Perhaps this explains why the GB have a fixation with time and chronology. Also why they keep their adherents in a prison away from the real world. Lol.
https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-the-fear-of-time-2671776
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Overlapping Generations
by Lost in the fog inperhaps this explains why the gb have a fixation with time and chronology.
also why they keep their adherents in a prison away from the real world.
lol.
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Don't count on witnessing Watchtower's demise anytime soon.
by Roger Kirkpatrick inthe fact that there are pomi ex-jws who have been disfellowshiped or inactive for years who still live in constant fear of armageddon indicates that watchtower will manage to exist in one way or another for years, if not decades, to come.
watchtower, like all other religious cults, operate on the premise that "you can fool some of the people all of the time...and that's enough!
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Slimboyfat,
But closing branches or bethels is not necessarily the same as selling the property. The one in Ireland ceased as a Bethel Home but is now used as a translation centre and a location for their new Kingdom Evangelisers training hub. The Bethelites have been thrown out onto the streets and the Bethel might have finished its role as the Ireland branch office but the building is still in use. Just saying.
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Refuting Russell and his Bible Students.
by Lost in the fog ini recently came across this reprinted book in a friend's library.
i hadn't seen it before, but it appears to be a refutation of the teachings of russell and also of the seventh day adventists.
some interesting logic is used by the author mainly around the bible chronology used by russell in his books.
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I recently came across this reprinted book in a friend's library. I hadn't seen it before, but it appears to be a refutation of the teachings of Russell and also of the Seventh Day Adventists. Some interesting logic is used by the author mainly around the Bible chronology used by Russell in his books. Even then he recognised the Bible Students were teaching falsehoods.
Interestingly (although elsewhere he says he is not being dogmatic but only suggesting) Mr Oppy concluded that the Kingdom of God would be established on the 20th day of September 1945.
I am attaching a couple of screenshots to whet your appetite if any of you want to look into it further.
https://archive.org/details/jehovahsfinished00oppy/page/6
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No 2019 Conventions in Ireland ?
by Phizzy ini may have got this wrong, but using the dreaded jw website, they seem to be directing the irish j.w's to go to birmingham in england this weekend.. is this correct ?
they always used to hold two conventions in ireland, are there none in 2019 ??.
probably the irish ones actually, truly, made a loss, but think of all the travelling, including a flight or sea ferry crossing if i am correct.
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Ireland already had its convention on the 2nd week of July. A time when the chosen hotel charges their highest summer rates and queues for food are literally out of the doors. I heard that if you went you had to take all your breakfast items off the buffet table at the same time, so by the time you got to your cooked breakfast it was stone cold. The hotel also I was told charge all children over the age of 2 as adult rates.
This is why a lot of Irish JWs find it cheaper to go to our English conventions in Newcastle, Manchester, and yes probably Birmingham, because even with the airfares added on it works out cheaper than what the WT has organised with one of the most expensive hotels in the Dublin area.
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by Lost in the fog in‘everybody agreed they were guilty’: multi-million dollar verdicts deliver legal blow to jehovah’s witnesses - greenwichtime.
https://m.greenwichtime.com/news/article/everybody-agreed-they-were-guilty-14301610.php.
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‘Everybody agreed they were guilty’: Multi-million dollar verdicts deliver legal blow to Jehovah’s Witnesses - GreenwichTime
https://m.greenwichtime.com/news/article/Everybody-agreed-they-were-guilty-14301610.php
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Excellent piece on Watchtower's appeal to the Supreme court
by Diogenesister inmark o'donnell ( john redwood) has outdone himself in this excellent piece on watchtower's appeal to the supreme court regarding their definition of clergy-penitent rights.. the case they are appealing revolves around gilbert simental, a known abuser who, although eventually removed as an elder, was allowed to remain in a position of respect, with the parents of his victims kept in the dark about the risk he posed to the children with whose care he was entrusted.
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anyway it's an excellent piece and well worth reading.. https://jwsurvey.org/news/jehovahs-witnesses-lose-california-child-abuse-case-appeal-to-u-s-supreme-court-part-one.
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Just picked up an original 20s copy of can the living talk with the dead. What are the pages with the craziest stuff?
by rickroll inits the smaller hand book and fragile due to the acid over time.
looking to go though it as little as possible so if anyone knows what pages have the most crazy things i would appreciate it.
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I used to have one that belonged to my grandfather but when I was still in, gave it away to a circuit overseer I liked. If only I had known that I could have made money from selling it!
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Child Sexual Abuse in the Catholic Church is in decline.
by Lost in the fog inthe number of child abuse cases in the catholic church is in decline apparently.
is the same thing true in the wts?
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/do-the-right-thing/201908/top-10-myths-about-clergy-abuse-in-the-catholic-church .
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The number of child abuse cases in the Catholic Church is in decline apparently. Is the same thing true in the WTS?
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Superstitions.
by Lost in the fog inaccording to the merriam-webster dictionary the definition of superstition is as follows - .
1a: a belief or practice resulting from ignorance, fear of the unknown, trust in magic or chance, or a false conception of causation.
b: an irrational abject attitude of mind toward the supernatural, nature, or god resulting from superstition.
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Blondie,
I always thought that the worse ones were the ones who thought they had the personal voice of God in their ear.
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Superstitions.
by Lost in the fog inaccording to the merriam-webster dictionary the definition of superstition is as follows - .
1a: a belief or practice resulting from ignorance, fear of the unknown, trust in magic or chance, or a false conception of causation.
b: an irrational abject attitude of mind toward the supernatural, nature, or god resulting from superstition.
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According to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary the definition of superstition is as follows -
1a: a belief or practice resulting from ignorance, fear of the unknown, trust in magic or chance, or a false conception of causation.
b: an irrational abject attitude of mind toward the supernatural, nature, or God resulting from superstition.
2: a notion maintained despite evidence to the contrary.
Now the WT org has printed many articles about avoiding superstitious practices, for example this one 'Are Superstitions Harmless?' Awake!—1987, which in part said "Remember, too, that superstitions offer an immature individual an excuse for blaming some power beyond himself for his bad fortune.”
So why is it that when something appears to go wrong in their lives the majority of the JWs will immediately blame Satan the Devil!
Isn't that just being superstitious?
For example, a friend of ours, due to a mistake in the payroll department of his employer, did not get paid the week before the Regional Convention. "That's the Devil trying to stop me going to the convention" he immediately said. "No, it's a fault with your employer's payroll system." we said. "Yes, but obviously the Devil was behind it. These things don't just happen by chance." Um, yes, they do.
Similarly when a pioneer who was on the first day's programme had a flat tyre en route. "How did that sharp nail just happen to be on the road and me in my good suit having to change a dirty tyre. The Devil's to blame I know!!"
Isn't this just magical thinking and a belief in superstition.